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Title: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on May 29, 2012, 05:53:00 AM
I told you it was coming!

Associated Press
MIAMI –  A witness says a naked man chewing on the face of another naked man on a downtown highway ramp kept eating and growled at a police officer who fatally shot him to make him stop.

Larry Vega told WSVN-TV in Miami that he was riding his bicycle Saturday afternoon off the MacArthur Causeway that connects downtown Miami with Miami Beach when he saw the savage attack on the bridge's off-ramp.

"The guy was, like, tearing him to pieces with his mouth, so I told him, `Get off!"' Vega said. "The guy just kept eating the other guy away, like, ripping his skin."

The slain man was identified by the Miami-Dade County Medical Examiner's office as Rudy Eugene, 31, Miami television station WFOR reported.

Vega flagged down a Miami police officer, who he said repeatedly ordered the attacker to get off the victim. The attacker just picked his head up and growled at the officer, Vega said.

As the attack continued, Vega said the officer shot the attacker, who continued chewing the victim's face. The officer fired again, killing the attacker.

Miami police have released few details about the attack, other than confirming that there was a fatal officer-involved shooting. The name of the victim, who was taken to Jackson Memorial Hospital, had not been immediately determined by authorities, said Detective William Moreno. Messages left Monday for a police spokesman were not immediately returned.

A spokeswoman said Monday that the hospital would not be releasing any information about him.

A surveillance video camera from The Miami Herald building nearby captured images of the men's naked legs lying side by side after the shooting.

Vega said the victim appeared gravely injured.

"It was just a blob of blood," Vega said. "You couldn't really see, it was just blood all over the place."


VIDEO
http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_610.shtml

Once the infected spread to europe, you guys over there will probably change your minds about firearm ownership. HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: cyphyr on May 29, 2012, 09:51:40 AM
PCP at a guess.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: matrix2003 on May 29, 2012, 10:21:29 AM
PCP at a guess. That's what I figured, but the cops are pointing to powerful LSD. Can you say bad trip?
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on May 29, 2012, 01:21:28 PM
Zombieland Rules (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-D2gBiKuxwMk/TfsgwgovrGI/AAAAAAAABEA/VR8716MoKOo/s1600/zombieland-rule-set-survival-guide-complete-rules-to-survive-surviving-zombie-apocalypse-zombies.jpg)
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: penang on May 29, 2012, 07:37:46 PM
Quote from: cyphyr on May 29, 2012, 09:51:40 AMPCP at a guess.



I think it's angel dust

Of all the drugs, only angel dust has the altered state experience that is so real that users couldn't seems to be get out of

I'm speaking from experience



Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 01, 2012, 07:20:44 PM
Thats more than I wanted to know about you penang. :o

Drugs are an easy way to explain away what happened here.
Remember that guy from germany a few years back who was arrested for eating the leg of another man.

The point is, that if evolution is true, then it stands to reason if something can evolve, it can also de-evolve. I think we as a Species have reached the peak of an evolutionary arc. Its all down hill from here boys!

Now we will begin to see real change. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: penang on June 02, 2012, 01:51:33 AM
Quote from: TheBadger on June 01, 2012, 07:20:44 PMThe point is, that if evolution is true, then it stands to reason if something can evolve, it can also de-evolve. I think we as a Species have reached the peak of an evolutionary arc. Its all down hill from here boys!

Now we will begin to see real change. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



That's not the way I see it

I see it as "branching"

The human species evolved from apes, and the fact that we are not the only ape around telling us that branching is indeed a very important side effect of evolution

Contrary to many people's thinking, the human species is still very far from achieving the apogee of the evolutionary journey - along the way there will be "branches" of the human species, and some of them will eventually split from the main trunk of the "homo sapiens" and evolve with their own uniqueness

Drugs, including mind altering drugs, may become a catalyst to accelerate that process
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 02, 2012, 12:30:21 PM
Quote from: penang on June 02, 2012, 01:51:33 AM

The human species evolved from apes

no !
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: penang on June 02, 2012, 11:56:43 PM
Quote from: Seth on June 02, 2012, 12:30:21 PM
Quote from: penang on June 02, 2012, 01:51:33 AMThe human species evolved from apes

no !



You happened to subscribe to the "someone made everything in 7-day" theory?


Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Kadri on June 03, 2012, 12:06:49 AM

I think he means that the humans and apes are descends of a distinct extinct species.
Not from the apes that live now.
Important difference that mostly people who do not understand evolution don't get.

I hope he means this...Seth ? ;D
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 03, 2012, 06:30:34 AM
absolutely, Kadri.
humans and apes have common ancestor, but humans do not descend from apes !!!
that is 1950's bullshit.
your so-called fact,penang , is as relevant as the God created the worl in 7 days theory.

you don't seem to know that humankind already had different branches and that homo-sapiens sapiens (yeah two sapiens, not just one) already took care of the others, dealing with them in a way or the other (killing them or melting with them).
and I don't think drugs can accelerate evolution and blablabla.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 03, 2012, 06:36:07 AM
Oh, by the way.... As french man, I can tell that I don't know anyone in France believing in creationism.
We laugh at this "theory", and we think that only stupid, uneducated, american people are able to believe in such nonsense.
I am sorry if somebody in here believes that God created the world in 7 days, and I don't want to be disrepectful.
I just wanted to explain that point : french do not believe in creationism, and at the same time,
if you tell them that human evolved from apes, they will laugh at you and call you ignorant.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 03, 2012, 03:46:26 PM
The point is not how long it took for us to live. But how long it takes to die.
There was nothing before I was born, there will be nothing after I die. You are all a dream.

Or maybe Kadri is dreaming us? I can't decide right now.

Anyway, macro evolution is a theory. It is not proven fact. Micro evolution has been proven through bacteria and germs. But macro evolution remains a theory.
Believe what you can see. Not what you are told. Everyone has an agenda, EVERYONE!

By the way.
The big bang theory lends support to religions idea, that, the universe has a beginning. Those religious ideas predate any notion of modern scientific thought.
Anyone who out right disregards the thinking and ideas of our ancestors denise there own existence. The one who does this is a buffoon.

"There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Horatio."
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 03, 2012, 06:39:19 PM
Quote from: TheBadger on June 03, 2012, 03:46:26 PM

Anyone who out right disregards the thinking and ideas of our ancestors denise there own existence. The one who does this is a buffoon.



No, he is not.

My ancestors attached bulls by a leg to a stake, inside a pit.
They waited for the bull to rote and fell in pieces.
So, when you sacrificed enough of them, the pit would be filled up by rotten bulls bodies.

They put children inside a man of straw, and put it afire.

Later, my ancestors believed that the Earth was flat and that the sun was traveling around it.
And they believed that you could buy your sins back by giving money to the priesthood.
At this time, they beleived that God created the Earth, the flat one, in 7 days.
And if somebody disagreed with that idea, he would be put in trial.

Excuse me to say that if I disregard those thinking and ideas, I do not denise my own existence.


That said, I absolutely agree on the part where you say that macro-evolution is still a theory. Not the Absolute and Divine Truth.



Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 03, 2012, 10:11:45 PM
About the ideas of our forefathers.

I was not saying that we need to embrace them. Only remember them... If you lived when they did, you would also believe things that seem crazy now.

It is too easy to pick out examples of things from history that are horrific. But right next to those ideas and events you mentioned are also some great ideals.
I am not even French, and I have a great love for some things that came from France. I mentioned Charlemagne before. Sure he was a man, he did some bad things (by our standards today) but he also did some great things that history will remember forever.

We can not judge history by modernity. We must understand it in its own context.

Those things that were done, that you mentioned, they were done in an effort to make scene of reality. They were wrong, but the goal was not wrong.
The man in the story in the OP, lost all connection with history, and thus with reality. He did not remember that he was a man, and so he stopped behaving as one.

The crimes of the church that you mentioned lead us from complacency, they lead us to Calvin and Luther, who lead us to freedom. If the things you mentioned did not happen, there would have been no improvement. You would still be just like our ancestors.

The sins of our Fathers are as much a part of us as any good thing they ever did. Remember them.
History shows us very clearly, every nation who forget their fathers, falls.

Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 04, 2012, 01:19:28 PM
History shows us very clearly, even nations that do not forget their fathers, fall.
Like Aztech, Maya, Egyptians, Sumerian, Akkadians, etc...

Learning what your ancestors did or believe is very important, I agree.
But when I read you, it sounds like I must worship them or give them more respect than the one they desevre.
They were men, as you said. And act like men, in good and evil, with intelligence or stupidity.
And they didn't do what they did for us but for themselves, at least for the huge majority of what we called "our ancestors".

As for your idea of Calvin and Luther leading us to freedom... well that is a religious subject so I'll just say that Calvin, a french man, and Luther put people in trials for sorcery and Luther even gave credit to the slaughters of various rebels, anabaptists.
He was a conviced antisemit (which was normal at the time though) and Islam was a tool of the Devil.
Well, if this is your idea of who will lead the human kind to freedom... I guess that is because you must be protestant or american (I don't know where you from). But as a french, I just see them as authoritarian religious people quick to judge and condemn  to death those who do not have the same believes.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 04, 2012, 06:41:05 PM
Maya and aztec  are roman catholic, these people are still here today. They took on new fathers and their old cultures died. I'm not familiar with some of the others.
On egypt you will have to be more precise. Old kingdom, new kingdom, Roman, (hellenistic), christian, Muslim?

I do not worship the dead. I did not mean to imply that. Honestly, I don't know how you could have concluded that. I mean I know I'm not a great writer, but thats a big jump.

Perhaps it is my writing, perhaps not. But you totally missed the point.
Everything that was bad that you mentioned in history, lead to something good. And those good things lead to better things.
Calvin and Luther lead to other thinkers who led to better ideas, Ideas that would not likely have come if the people did not come first. In the end, they broke the power of Rome, but not by them selves. What ever bad you think they did, it is nothing compared to the good they lead to.

You can not separate the men form the history, cause from effect. Otherwise you are talking about some alternate universe.

Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 04, 2012, 07:00:28 PM
maybe the problem is not your writing but my reading ;)

Maya and Aztec, as a civilization, could be considered as finished, and the Egyptian civilization is over too.
The people living in the area now, are not the same that the one that built the pyramids and worshiped the "animal Gods".
They were not the muslims arabs.

But anyway, I understand what you mean and I agree with you last point !

That said, in all that long History, we never had a zombie invasion ;D
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 04, 2012, 11:12:16 PM
Its cool Seth. Actually I have grown to like arguing with you. We talk about lots of strange things in these threads.

One thing I hope we can agree on is that its better to have a shotgun than to not have a shotgun, when the zombies attack in hordes!

Here is a cute one for everyone to enjoy
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-k1rTfK3fcNc/TfUkXMxI2iI/AAAAAAAABNs/SOj7BlRYhbc/s1600/notsexyatall.jpg

Rule #21
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 05, 2012, 01:04:19 PM
Shotgun ! definitely shotgun ! ^^

Yeah, me too, I like arguing and you are a good client ;)
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: penang on June 05, 2012, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: Seth on June 03, 2012, 06:30:34 AMabsolutely, Kadri.
humans and apes have common ancestor, but humans do not descend from apes !!!
that is 1950's bullshit.

your so-called fact,penang , is as relevant as the God created the worl in 7 days theory.

you don't seem to know that humankind already had different branches and that homo-sapiens sapiens (yeah two sapiens, not just one) already took care of the others, dealing with them in a way or the other (killing them or melting with them).
and I don't think drugs can accelerate evolution and blablabla.





I used the word "Ape", but I didn't write "Modern Ape"

If I had written "Human species evolved from modern ape", you would have every right to rant at me, at the way you did

But I did not

I merely wrote "The human species evolved from apes"

That word "Ape", at least in all the dictionary I could find, didn't specify that it only denotes "Modern Ape"

It could be "Ancient Ape", "Prehistoric Ape", "Modern Ape", "Space Ape", or any kind of "Ape" there was/is/will be

I kinda get a feeling that some people here, those with attitude, have a penchant to find faults when there is none

Last time, on another thread, a Frenchman so courteously gave me a psycho-analysis, completely free of charge

And this time, on this thread ....

Hmm ....

But anyway, I do hope that you feel satisfy now, Seth, after that ranting of yours


Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: JimB on June 06, 2012, 05:20:51 AM
Quote from: Seth on June 03, 2012, 06:39:19 PM
Later, my ancestors believed that the Earth was flat ....

The flat Earth myth is just that: a myth, which still pervades modern views on our ancestors. The Earth's been known to be spherical since at least the time of the ancient Greeks, and the vast majority of scholars throughout history have known it to be so. The myth was propagated by fiction novelists in the 19th and early 20th Centuries, Washington Irving included. Being described as a flatearther at the time of Cyrnao de Bergerac was a gross insult to someone's credibility.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 07, 2012, 03:55:55 AM
Ha!

Thats funny JimB, I did not know that... About the fiction.

But now that I think about it, it does seem really strange that people would think the earth was flat when all they had to do was look, I mean among scholars.
Plus, even when a lot of things were forgotten during the aftermath of the fall of Rome, there were still books, and trade. And I'm rather sure people had eyes and brains for most of history too. :)

Yeah, you know I never liked this smarter than thou attitude modern man takes when talking about the past. Lets see someone from our time build a pyramid, then I will be impressed.

Good one Jim.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: penang on June 07, 2012, 05:29:10 AM
There's a discussion on the evolution of primate / simian on slashdot, especially the below comment:

http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2899721&cid=40240871

Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 07, 2012, 01:01:33 PM
Quote from: JimB on June 06, 2012, 05:20:51 AM
Quote from: Seth on June 03, 2012, 06:39:19 PM
Later, my ancestors believed that the Earth was flat ....

The flat Earth myth is just that: a myth, which still pervades modern views on our ancestors. The Earth's been known to be spherical since at least the time of the ancient Greeks, and the vast majority of scholars throughout history have known it to be so. The myth was propagated by fiction novelists in the 19th and early 20th Centuries, Washington Irving included. Being described as a flatearther at the time of Cyrnao de Bergerac was a gross insult to someone's credibility.

"The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church" Magellan
Take a look at some writing from Herodotus, Thales, Homere and Hesiode.
Germanic people and Vikings (or Norse, I am not sure) belived the Earth was flat.
the Japanese, in the Nihongi, describe Earth as flat.
Same thing for ancient Chinese people... they even thought it was square and flat.

as for Cyrano, it is not the middle-age but the Renaissance.

So I understand we should not patronize our ancestors and their believes but we must not give them more credit and modernity than what they were by the time.

Quote from: penang on June 05, 2012, 07:38:24 PM


I kinda get a feeling that some people here, those with attitude, have a penchant to find faults when there is none

Last time, on another thread, a Frenchman so courteously gave me a psycho-analysis, completely free of charge

And this time, on this thread ....

Hmm ....

But anyway, I do hope that you feel satisfy now, Seth, after that ranting of yours





Considering uor previous posts, on the threads you open on this forum (not in the image, animations, or files sharing, of course...), I think you know exactly what is a person with an attitude ;)
And I am curious about your sentence on french people... Can you explain what you mean ?
because you had an argument one time and being criticize (I guess that is what you call  psycho-analysis) another time by a french, you not even notice the nationality of your "opponent" but you write it publicly, with some "..." at the end, not finishing the idea you started.
Are you afraid to say outloud what you think ? ;D
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: JimB on June 07, 2012, 05:23:57 PM
Quote from: Seth on June 07, 2012, 01:01:33 PM
"The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church" Magellan

The Magellan quote: another myth. The earliest example of the quote can only be found in Robert Green Ingersoll's 1873 essay, 'Individuality'. Ingersoll is one of the very people I speak of in my previous comment.

Quote from: Seth on June 07, 2012, 01:01:33 PM
Take a look at some writing from Herodotus, Thales, Homere and Hesiode.

Take a look at some writings by Pythagoras, Aristotle, Euclid, Aristarchus, Eratosthenes, Crates, Strabo, Ptolemy.

Quote from: Seth on June 07, 2012, 01:01:33 PMGermanic people and Vikings (or Norse, I am not sure) belived the Earth was flat.
the Japanese, in the Nihongi, describe Earth as flat.
Same thing for ancient Chinese people... they even thought it was square and flat.

So why are you [mis]quoting Magellan about the Western church? As for the Norse, that'd be the people who settled Greenland and made it as far as North America without falling off the edge of the Earth, right?
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 08, 2012, 11:21:10 AM
All in all, this has got to be one of the stranger threads.

:o
8)
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: PabloMack on June 16, 2012, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: Seth on June 03, 2012, 06:36:07 AM
As french man, I can tell that I don't know anyone in France believing in creationism....and at the same time, if you tell them that human evolved from apes, they will laugh at you and call you ignorant.

Seth, thank you for your input. These two disparate beliefs seem to leave the French belief system with no origin at all for man. How do you explain this? I think it is simply "denial". But keep in mind that the English word "ingnorance" comes from the infinitive "to ignore" which means much the same as denial. What is the etymology of  the French word for "ignorance"?

It wasn't very many years ago that evolutionary taxonomists moved the "other great apes of africa" from Pongidae to Hominidae. In other words, we didn't evolve FROM apes because we ARE apes. What this means is that the chimpanzees and gorillas are more closely related to hominids than to orangutans which are in the genus Pong (the nominal genus of the family Pongidae). This is backed up by DNA studies.

On another note, I feel a bit of sympathy for my Euro Terragen brethren. Our laws in America permit us to defend ourselves in the Zombie apocalypse. I have my Mossberg 500 Zombie killer all ready to go. It is a 1+7 12 gauge pump shot gun. 1+7 means one in the chamber plus seven in the magazine. I think the ZMB logo is a registered trademark of Mossberg. By the way, John Browning (an American) invented the pump action. He was just as involved in the development of European fire arms as he was in developing American weapons. He is recognized as the most prolific gun inventor in world history.

http://www.tactical-life.com/online/products/mossberg-zmb-series/1/

[attach=1]

I love the History Channel series "Tales of the Gun". Here is the one about John Browning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZxKOBmO4aU
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 16, 2012, 06:53:12 PM
QuoteThese two disparate beliefs seem to leave the French belief system with no origin at all for man. How do you explain this?
[attachimg=1]

PabloMack,

I have a pimped out AR. But I needs me a semi auto shoty! Maybe by Christmas ;)
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: penang on June 17, 2012, 12:40:37 AM
Quote from: TheBadger on June 16, 2012, 06:53:12 PM
QuoteThese two disparate beliefs seem to leave the French belief system with no origin at all for man. How do you explain this?
(http://img1.imagilive.com/0612/Test.jpg)


Have mercy

Don't be so cruel :)
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: PabloMack on June 17, 2012, 10:54:36 AM
Quote from: penang on June 17, 2012, 12:40:37 AM
Have mercy

Don't be so cruel :)

I think Seth understands. I was just the dumb kid that walked in and asked the (too) obvious question.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 17, 2012, 11:06:15 AM
Oh come on. Its a funny post! And a funny image.

Lets see how many jokes we can come up with based on that picture.

1) So! God is a white guy! I knew it.

2) You know If I was nine feet tall and had arms like that, I'd walk around in my underwear to. Because, what the fuck are YOU going to do about it?

3) "Hey! Anyone loose a little container? I just found it sitting here."

4) "Zombies, What the hell is a zombie?"

Thats all I got.

* K, two more...

5) "Hey, you see this cup? I just totally filled it with my DNA. If you know what I mean? ;)"

6) "Hey baby, you want to see whats in my cup?"

Now, thats all I got.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 17, 2012, 02:24:50 PM
the french belief system does not say that men come from ape nor that they are created by God.
we say that we do not know.... and that is why there are so many scientifics looking for proof, solutions, explainations...
is that answer good enough for you ?
Maybe you should read the last research of C.Owen Lovejoy

penang, you truely are an asshole.
you should use tg2 and post some good render, and stop judging people by their nationality.


JimB, I am very interested in everything you said, so, I will read more on this subject. Maybe my "knowledge" is too old and I definitely am not up-to-date :)


anyway, that should have been a good zombie thread but ...
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: cyphyr on June 17, 2012, 02:54:45 PM
Speaking of Trolls, Troll Hunter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLEo7H9tqSM)
I think I saw somewhere an article about using TG in here.
Richard
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 17, 2012, 06:20:28 PM
;D
that was great !
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 17, 2012, 11:01:18 PM
lol!
Good one.



Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: penang on June 17, 2012, 11:56:31 PM
Quote from: Seth on June 17, 2012, 02:24:50 PM
penang, you truely are an asshole



I am sure France would be very, very proud of you




Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 18, 2012, 01:37:22 AM
I'm proud to know you (in an internet sorta way) Seth, your a cool cat. And despite what you humbly said before, I think you are an artist, a good one too.

Penang, you have been a little bit of an ass hole. After reading back through theses threads I wonder if you are sharing what you really think and believe, or just trying to entertain your self by arguing. I wonder if you even use terragen?

I mean I don't have a problem with you or you opinions, I even agree with some of what you say. But it's a little strange that you hang out here and never post any renders, or questions about terragen.

Mostly I hang out here while i'm rendering, and I get bored so I post strange things like this thread, or make jokes. But I'm using terragen.

I'm probably wrong, but I could not find any art by you.
If you are going to keep chiming in, I think you should share your art too. Otherwise, people will think your an ass hole, also known as a troll.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: penang on June 20, 2012, 01:35:50 AM
Terragen is not the only renderer that I use, if you really want to know

I do not post the things that I render simply because I do not think they are good enough

If not posting the not-good-enough render over here makes me an asshole, well, I am sure I am far from being the only asshole around

Sorry it has come to this name calling thing - I do not use bad word here or elsewhere - You can go through all my messages here to check - this being the first one that I use that "asshole" word, which did not originate from me

And oh yes, I've yet to see a rule here on this board - and the Planetside staffs can tell us if I am wrong - that there is a requirement that everyone must post their rendered images here, or get lost

To the Planetside staffs, sorry again for this name calling post - It wasn't me who started this, and if you really need to find the one who started it, ask that Frenchman

And to that "badger", I am sure your parents have taught you very well - bad words and all that
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 20, 2012, 03:27:37 AM
Quote from: penang on June 20, 2012, 01:35:50 AM


I do not post the things that I render simply because I do not think they are good enough

If not posting the not-good-enough render over here makes me an asshole, well, I am sure I am far from being the only asshole around




Posting not good enough render doesn't makes someone an asshole. But acting like you do for several months, arguing over politic and people's nationality does the job very well indeed. Nobody will judge your sociability over your artistic results I hope. Don't think you are not an asshole because you don't post bad render. That would be too easy. I am proud to be one, and hopefully my "assholeness" doesn't come from the quality of my tg2 jobs.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 20, 2012, 03:54:03 AM
Yeah, I'm a total ass at least three times a week. If I wasn't people would not appreciate me when I'm nice. ;D

Penang,
Mostly the reason people post their work here is to get feed back and make better images. Post your Images and work with the community, and you will likely, like, your work better.

Being humble about your work is a good personal trait, but it wont help you get better. Become a real member of the community, and don't just stay on the fringe down here in open. Post renders and share information.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: penang on June 20, 2012, 05:24:01 AM
Please, the patronizing is overbearing !

Quote from: TheBadger on June 18, 2012, 01:37:22 AMPenang, you have been a little bit of an ass hole. After reading back through theses threads I wonder if you are sharing what you really think and believe, or just trying to entertain your self by arguing. I wonder if you even use terragen?

But it's a little strange that you hang out here and never post any renders, or questions about terragen.

If you are going to keep chiming in, I think you should share your art too. Otherwise, people will think your an ass hole, also known as a troll.


It might help you if you would just re-read what you had written

And I ask again - is there a rule anywhere in this forum that I (or anybody else) _must_ post our renders here, even when they are clearly not-up-to-par, before we can post any message ?






Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: penang on June 20, 2012, 05:26:13 AM
Quote from: Seth on June 20, 2012, 03:27:37 AMBut acting like you do for several months, arguing over politic and people's nationality does the job very well indeed.


It would do you some good if you would just stand in front of a mirror

That is, if you can spare some free time for yourself


Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 20, 2012, 05:50:50 AM
I told you that I am an asshole and that hopefully not because of my renders.
I can see it in the mirror everyday. Maybe you should apply your advice on yourself ;)
or are you afraid of what you might see ?
You are talking about forum's rules and we are talking about socially awkward behaviour. Do you understand that we might find strange someone arguing over this and that, on a 3d landscaping software forum, without talking about the software, showing renders or helpin others to improve their skills but just acting like some trolling yahoo user ?
If you don't like to be patronised, don't put yourself in a situation where people see you as a troll.
People can complain about me sometimes because of my harshness but nobody would call me a troll. And that is not true for you. And speaking about other users parents or education doesn't seem to be a good way to fit in.
Find some friends, speak with them, argue with them if you like it, troll on yahoo questions if you want...
But honestly, you are, from my point of view, useless and disturbing. Sorry, but we are not used to have someone never speaking of terragen on the terragen forums, but only spitting his opinion on economics, politics and racial inclination. 

Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 21, 2012, 05:39:22 PM
QuoteAnd to that "badger", I am sure your parents have taught you very well - bad words and all that

I'm sure I'm not interested in the moral judgments of someone who smokes PCP, penang. Especially when your talking about my family.

Seriously? Attacking my family, really? Oh, man! You really are just here to instigate things. HAHhaha, what a jerk.

I did take your advice though.
I re-read this entire thread to see how we got so far off topic (not that I mind really) and because i was bored.

It turns out all of this started when in response to a joke I made about de-evolving (which you clearly did not get), you informed all of us that you smoke PCP/angel dust.
And that you believe drugs  will help people (maybe just you) become an evolved human, or some such shit.
Its on page 1 of this thread if anyone cares. Its pretty damn funny. Ooops, I mean darn! Dont want to affened the sensibilities of a crack head. :-X

Then you went on to make imprecise and flat out incorrect statements about issues this thread had nothing to do with. Then you attempted  to turn another harmless joke by me, into an insult. I was not being cruel, and anyone not smoking crack knows that.

That brings us up to where you stared attacking, directly or indirectly, peoples nationalities and now their families.

penang, please stop smoking pcp. Its not that I really care, because I don't. Its just that it does not seem to be helping you to evolve.

Oh, and to answer your question. If you need rules, please write planetside and tell them you need rules to help you not be so darn funny. Because I can't stop laughing (at you). And its really making me feel bad (that you smoke pcp).

:)
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: penang on June 22, 2012, 12:20:52 AM
Quote from: TheBadger on June 21, 2012, 05:39:22 PMmake imprecise and flat out incorrect statements


Look who is talking ....


Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: PabloMack on June 24, 2012, 11:19:04 AM
Quote from: Seth on June 17, 2012, 02:24:50 PM
the french belief system does not say that men come from ape nor that they are created by God.
we say that we do not know.... and that is why there are so many scientifics looking for proof, solutions, explainations...is that answer good enough for you ?

Yeah. That's good enough. I think a lot of Americans would say that too.
Eliminating the die-hard religious people and the hard-core evolutionists,
many of the remaining ones would claim that they are waiting for proof.
But I am certain that many of those would not (want to) recognize conclusive
evidence if it stared them in the face. Most are not even looking for it and
are afraid that it will find them. Many think that there is some sort of
political or racist basis for claiming that man evolved from apes. I think
that the thought that our species may actually have an origin is either
totally unimportant to them or the knowledge of it has some dire social
consequences. To me, the truth is just simply what is and what was and
damn the paranoid.

I saw a video on YouTube posted by a really stupid man that was very proud
of a relevation he had and wanted to share it. He claimed that his mind
does the creating of the things that he wants. The example he gave
was that, when he hunts a deer, this caused the deer to come into being.
The moron never thought about why certain extinct species are never
"created" by his mind because he really never thinks about unself-centered
things like that. He claims that all these devices that modern man have
invented to sense and understand the environment around him do nothing
useful at all and merely serve to enslave people to the ruling class. The
existence of people like this that don't exibit human intelligence only
reinforce my belief that humans evolved from apes. Nothing I say should
indicate that I look down on apes. I think that many apes are actually
more intelligent than many humans. Just because they do not have the
speech centers that evolved in humans to commicate their thoughts
doesn't mean they are not intelligent. Speech was a mechanism that
evolved in humans to communicate information. These parts of the brain
aren't used to do the actual thinking just as keyboards, mice, speakers
and video monitors don't do the program execution in computers. They
are merely subsystems for communication just as speech is in humans.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 24, 2012, 12:10:01 PM
that is not a stupid idea, that is metaphysical solipsism.
and I agree with the rest of your post.

did you manage to read some C. Owen Lovejoy's writing on evolution ? :)
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Tangled-Universe on June 25, 2012, 10:18:41 AM
Quote from: PabloMack on June 24, 2012, 11:19:04 AM

...

The existence of people like this that don't exibit human intelligence only
reinforce my belief that humans evolved from apes.

...


Haha, brilliant and so true ;D
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: rcallicotte on June 25, 2012, 10:44:50 AM
It's really a sign of "devololution" (evolution backwards).


Quote from: Tangled-Universe on June 25, 2012, 10:18:41 AM
Quote from: PabloMack on June 24, 2012, 11:19:04 AM

...

The existence of people like this that don't exibit human intelligence only
reinforce my belief that humans evolved from apes.

...


Haha, brilliant and so true ;D
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: PabloMack on June 25, 2012, 03:11:30 PM
Quote from: Seth on June 24, 2012, 12:10:01 PM
did you manage to read some C. Owen Lovejoy's writing on evolution ? :)

I have done a little research on who he is. Looks like he has taken a
significant role in studying human evolution. Over the years, I have
avoided reading about human evolution both because there is so much
emotion surrounding the subject due to ego-centrism and because it is
such a narrow subject. I find evolution of archosaurs and other ruling
reptiles so much more interesting. At the moment my wife and I are
reading a great deal about the war in the Pacific as we are taking our
next vacation to Guadalcanal in the Solomon Islands. We will also be on
Viti Levu, Fiji, for five days looking for native birds.

My next book (indirectly) regarding evolution is by a French paleontologist
named Sébastien Steyer titled "Earth before the Dinosaurs". Follow the
link to the page below to find a website about this research. I quote
him here because he expresses my sentiments well:

"As most of the Vertebrate Palaeontologists (VPs) in the world are currently
working either on dinosaurs (incl. birds or not) and what happen after
(incl. primates and preferencially ourself - easier to get money!), I prefer
working on what happen before dinos: I like the groups nobody cares like
the fossil amphibians."

However, I am a die-hard dino fan. It is what got me into CG in the first place!

Steyer's website contains a 3D landscape reconstruction of what the pangean
coast might have looked like after the "Great Regression" around the time of
the Permo-Triassic boundary. It was created using Terragen.

http://www2.mnhn.fr/hdt203/info/steyer.php

When I get time I will read something written by C. Owen Lovejoy.
Thanks for the information.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 25, 2012, 05:42:16 PM
thanks for the link !
I truely love dinos ^^
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: TheBadger on June 26, 2012, 06:28:15 PM
Sorry about the flaming, everyone. Not cool of me.

Also,

IT HAPPENED AGAIN!!!
Florida man strips naked, bites off chunk of another man's arm

FOX/AP
A Florida man was arrested Wednesday after stripping down, biting a chunk of flesh from another man's arm and resisting repeated attempts by police to subdue him with a stun gun.

Charles Baker, 26, went to his girlfriend's home to visit his children Wednesday night while under the influence of an unknown substance, WFTS-TV reported. When Baker arrived, he barged in and began yelling, taking off his clothes and throwing furniture.

Jeffrey Blake, who lives in the home, attempted to restrain Baker, but Baker fought back by biting a chunk of flesh from Blake's arm.

Blake managed to restrain Baker until two police officers arrived on the scene, though Baker refused to respond to the officers' orders.

One deputy deployed his electronic control device after giving a verbal warning.

But Baker resisted the shock, prompting the deputies to use the device three more times before several other officers arrived on the scene and were able to subdue and handcuff him.

Baker was taken to Manatee Memorial Hospital in Bradenton for evaluation before being transported to the jail.

It was not immediately clear what substance Baker had ingested, but Florida has played host to a recent spate of bizarre behavior by people under the influence of synthetic drugs marketed as "bath salts."


In related news; My friend Jessie, in an abundance of caution, has sworn not to wash him self anymore. I then informed him he should not visit  me anymore.
Title: Re: THE ZOMBI APOCALIPS HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!!
Post by: Seth on June 26, 2012, 06:51:44 PM
Get your shotgun, guys !