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Title: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on January 13, 2018, 03:20:20 PM
Hello ! :)   ;)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Dune on January 14, 2018, 02:11:50 AM
Ah, you're in too. Great. Needs work, less haze for one. Good luck, Bastien!
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on January 14, 2018, 05:18:15 AM
Thank you Ulco.  ;)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on January 14, 2018, 07:08:57 AM
The next. :)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Dune on January 14, 2018, 08:52:04 AM
I think you should darken the textures and make more distinction between grass and rock. I would also add some lateral displacements (PF, billows or perlin, stretched by Y perhaps: 50/200/10, displaced lateral or normal by 20m or so) after a compute terrain and add some strata broken up by a PF (billows, sizes 50/200/10 or so) after that. Work on the coastline too, darken soft area just above water level by color adjust on a surface shader.
And put camera where I put the arrow for a more dramatic view, perhaps.

Just some ideas....
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: luvsmuzik on January 14, 2018, 09:25:06 AM
Already great terrain distribution and displacement. The adjustments suggested will really make this even better.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: DannyG on January 14, 2018, 10:15:16 AM
Nice start Bastien
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Post by: cyphyr on January 14, 2018, 11:20:43 AM
A good beginning. Reminds me of large ship canals, Suez and Panama. Try some alternate viewpoints.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: inkydigit on January 15, 2018, 05:48:43 AM
Looking good Bastien!

Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: AndyWelder on January 20, 2018, 06:28:48 AM
Now that's a different approach! Looks interesting! Like a canal indeed, dug out from the rocky terrain.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on January 21, 2018, 04:42:51 AM
Thank you to all.  :D

Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Hannes on January 21, 2018, 05:21:12 AM
Cool, Bastien!
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on January 21, 2018, 10:40:29 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: DannyG on January 21, 2018, 11:05:41 AM
Very nice Bastien
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on January 30, 2018, 05:55:07 AM
Hello, here one other canyon cliff
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: archonforest on January 30, 2018, 06:20:37 AM
Nicely shaping up.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge WIP
Post by: bla bla 2 on January 30, 2018, 11:29:14 AM
Merci, Thank you. ;)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge Wip
Post by: bla bla 2 on January 31, 2018, 01:56:17 PM
other canyon.  :)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: sboerner on January 31, 2018, 06:30:30 PM
Maybe dial back the lighting intensity a bit. Nice work -- my favorite so far, great overall shapes and camera angle.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: mhaze on February 02, 2018, 05:35:31 AM
Really good rock shapes and an excellent pov but very bright and hazy.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bobbystahr on February 06, 2018, 01:41:02 AM
I thought 3.5 and 3.51 were right on track for realistic....
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on February 08, 2018, 02:27:04 PM
 :D Thank you, bob.
And other canyon.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Dune on February 09, 2018, 02:56:13 AM
Those are very arty, especially the first one.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on February 13, 2018, 08:55:26 AM
;)

Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bobbystahr on February 13, 2018, 09:36:28 AM
Style 2 suits my eye nicely...carry on.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on February 21, 2018, 02:47:14 PM
And other canyon. ;D
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bobbystahr on February 21, 2018, 02:54:05 PM
good stuff, I like 3.4 best myself but they's all crazy good!
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on February 21, 2018, 02:56:28 PM
Thank you, Bob. :)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on February 21, 2018, 04:08:19 PM
With the lake.  :)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: mhaze on February 22, 2018, 04:36:28 AM
Wild, love the colours, and the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bobbystahr on February 22, 2018, 11:44:50 AM
Quote from: mhaze on February 22, 2018, 04:36:28 AM
Wild, love the colours, and the atmosphere.

Agree
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on February 28, 2018, 12:57:48 PM
Again other image.  :D

You prefer what the image ?
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: archonforest on February 28, 2018, 02:43:07 PM
The one before.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Dune on March 01, 2018, 03:43:25 AM
I like this one. You certainly have a distinct style, very consistent, and recognizable as a Bastien. No realism whatsoever, but good in an artistic way.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Hannes on March 01, 2018, 10:28:08 AM
Yes, somehow stylish. There are quite some flipped displacements, but I like the look of the material.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on March 03, 2018, 03:47:04 AM
Thank you :)

Here other picture.
This one second ?
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Dune on March 03, 2018, 05:29:55 AM
Yes, I prefer the second one. Interesting what you can get out of TG.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Jo Kariboo on March 03, 2018, 08:24:42 AM
Original and strange!  :)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: archonforest on March 03, 2018, 09:00:11 AM
The second got potential for the Cliff challenge. Tweak, tweak, tweak... :D
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: cyphyr on March 07, 2018, 09:00:05 AM
Great artistic work! Like something from a dream :)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on March 09, 2018, 10:56:01 AM
Thank you. There other picture.  :)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Dune on March 09, 2018, 11:01:14 AM
Looks like a ship. Interesting.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on March 09, 2018, 11:22:25 AM
This the effect twist and shear.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: j meyer on March 09, 2018, 12:22:41 PM
Cool idea, worth to be continued.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: luvsmuzik on March 09, 2018, 12:38:45 PM
Good stuff! ;D
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on March 11, 2018, 05:16:08 PM
Upgrade to image.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on March 16, 2018, 02:41:18 PM
Other canyon.  :D  Some changes where not need ?
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bobbystahr on March 16, 2018, 10:03:21 PM
Nice, definitely massive...well done.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on April 02, 2018, 11:24:18 AM
Et, retravailler. :)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: luvsmuzik on April 02, 2018, 11:53:22 AM
Finale? BRAV0!
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on April 02, 2018, 12:35:30 PM
Not again. ( Pas encore ) ;) But thank you.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on April 04, 2018, 04:13:23 PM
Version finale. :)  :D

Qu'est-ce que vous en dites ?  :)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on April 05, 2018, 12:09:12 PM
What do you say about it ? :)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Dune on April 05, 2018, 12:12:12 PM
Honest? It's a typical Bastien and very arty, but not very realistic, so...
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on April 05, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Vous m'agacez. c'est jamais bien réel de toute manière de toute façon vous serez pas dans le top 3.   >:(  ::)
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: archonforest on April 05, 2018, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: bla bla 2 on April 05, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Vous m'agacez. c'est jamais bien réel de toute manière de toute façon vous serez pas dans le top 3.   >:(  ::)

:o ???
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Kadri on April 05, 2018, 04:50:25 PM
Quote from: bla bla 2 on April 05, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Vous m'agacez. c'est jamais bien réel de toute manière de toute façon vous serez pas dans le top 3.   >:(  ::)
Do you prefer lies or honest critisizm Bastien ?
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Hetzen on April 05, 2018, 05:22:08 PM
I think that comment is out of order and in the cold light of day Bastien, you'll realise that. :(
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Hannes on April 06, 2018, 02:03:19 AM
This comment is indeed very inappropriate, Bastien.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Dune on April 06, 2018, 02:11:26 AM
I'll refrain from any C&C then, no problem.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Jo Kariboo on April 06, 2018, 07:14:58 AM
Quote from: bla bla 2 on April 05, 2018, 01:41:12 PM
Vous m'agacez. c'est jamais bien réel de toute manière de toute façon vous serez pas dans le top 3.   >:( ::)

Hello Bastien, I find your reaction curious. Dune does not criticize your image, but you recall a rule of the contest that the images will be judged by their photo-realism.
https://planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,24017.0.html
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on April 06, 2018, 08:40:01 AM
I am told: Wow, that's good. "Then I will not be told how to make the image realistic, so I do not really know how to do it with you ...
:-\

( Google translate )

On me dit : Ouah c'est bien. " " Après on m'aiderai pas à me dire comment rendre l'image réaliste, alors, je sais pas vraiment comment m'y prendre avec vous...
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Hannes on April 06, 2018, 10:12:40 AM
So the reason why you offended Ulco is that you think there is no one who helps you make your image realistic?  ??? ??? ???
No one but you can make your image realistic. Do you think we all had a teacher to improve our skills? It's learning by doing for all of us.
You might have noticed, that if you have a specific question, you'll always get an answer from someone in the forum, but the question "how can I make my image realistic?" can't be answered. There is no "realistic render"-button.

Maybe you had a bad day, or whatever, but this is not the way we should communicate here.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Jo Kariboo on April 06, 2018, 10:23:15 AM
Quote from: bla bla 2 on April 06, 2018, 08:40:01 AM
I am told: Wow, that's good. "Then I will not be told how to make the image realistic, so I do not really know how to do it with you ...
:-\

( Google translate )

On me dit : Ouah c'est bien. " " Après on m'aiderai pas à me dire comment rendre l'image réaliste, alors, je sais pas vraiment comment m'y prendre avec vous...
Hannes are faster ...

Hi Bastien,
Maybe nobody explains to you how to make the image more realistic but no member in this forum has this responsibility. Sometimes some have tips or advice sometimes no. Dune is the one who gives a lot of advice, but free to do it when and how he wants, he is not at our service.

To make realistic images there are his tutorials that I think excellent.
https://planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,17218.0.html
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: luvsmuzik on April 06, 2018, 10:42:13 AM
Pardon  moi enthusiasam,,,,, :) :)
https://planetside.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,24320.msg246532.html#msg246532

Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: bla bla 2 on April 06, 2018, 11:17:46 AM
Certes...Je suis désolé Ulco, et vous autres, j'ai pas eu une bonne semaine, mais, j'essaie de faire bien réaliste mes images, qui
me tiens à coeur mais j'en suis désolé de m'être comporter comme ça. Pour moi, vous êtes tous mes ami(e)s.

Et, ça va être juste pour faire des images de rendus pour le concours, il reste une semaine.

Certainly ... I'm sorry Ulco, and you other, I did not have a good week, but, I'm trying to make my images real,
I'm keen on my heart but I'm sorry to behave like that. For me, you are all my friends.

And, it's going to be fair to make pictures for the contest, there's a week left.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: Dune on April 06, 2018, 12:44:26 PM
Thanks Bastien, it's alright. You have a certain very specific style as an artist, but it's not realism, and it needn't be. That is not bad, certainly not! But realism is something completely different, and if you want to produce realistic renders, you'd have to follow some of the tutorials.
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: cyphyr on April 06, 2018, 01:35:10 PM
Hey Bastien
I hope you don't mind but there's something I have always wanted to ask you about your renders.
You always have a really (REALLY) wide angle on your camera, much more than one would use usually as a photographer.
I wonder if this is your intent (it's a great stylistic element/use if so).

Are you working on a laptop? If so it's VERY hard to place cameras easily.
Are you using the magnifying glass in the navigation window to move in and out of your scene?

If so then do you know that this dose NOT move the camera but changes its zoom factor instead.

Please don't take this as a negative critique but trying to understand where your unique style comes from.

Cheers
Title: Re: Bastien Challenge
Post by: archonforest on April 06, 2018, 02:31:50 PM
Quote from: cyphyr on April 06, 2018, 01:35:10 PM

If so then do you know that this dose NOT move the camera but changes its zoom factor instead.

Cheers

hmmm....this is interesting...