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Title: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: rcallicotte on February 02, 2009, 04:34:44 PM
I remember reading something about xFrog plants being available in single packages at a reasonable (reduced) price by this January.  Anyone heard the scoop on this lately?
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Seth on February 02, 2009, 04:54:47 PM
Xfrog and reasonable price in the same sentence ?! Oo'
didn't heard about this urban legend, sorry...
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: rcallicotte on February 02, 2009, 05:05:58 PM
http://forums.planetside.co.uk/index.php?topic=5289.msg56161#msg56161

Xfrog and reasonable price in the same sentence ?! Oo'
didn't heard about this urban legend, sorry...
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Seth on February 02, 2009, 05:19:27 PM
That's what I said, Urban Legend :D
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Marcos Silveira on February 06, 2009, 02:55:37 PM
Xfrog and reasonable price in the same sentence ?! Oo'
didn't heard about this urban legend, sorry...

 :D :D :D :D :D
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: XfrogPlants and Terragen 2
Post by: xfrog on February 19, 2009, 10:56:02 PM
Xfrog and reasonable price in the same sentence ?! Oo'
didn't heard about this urban legend, sorry...

Hi, it's me, the Urban Cowpoke.

We are releasing, XfrogPlants for Terragen 2, the same day as the release of Terragen 2.

That has been agreed upon, by myself, Stewart McSherry, ceo of xfrog inc. and Mssr. Matt Fairclough, author extraordinaire of the Terragen thing.

Via handshake and bottle of 2003 Delas Hermitage, Feb 18 2009, 8pm, we agreed on a March launch.

Which means it is finally happening. You are getting a release of TG2 and a release of many affordable plants to go with.

 

Title: Re: XfrogPlants and Terragen 2
Post by: sjefen on February 19, 2009, 11:08:11 PM
Xfrog and reasonable price in the same sentence ?! Oo'
didn't heard about this urban legend, sorry...

Hi, it's me, the Urban Cowpoke.

We are releasing, XfrogPlants for Terragen 2, the same day as the release of Terragen 2.

That has been agreed upon, by myself, Stewart McSherry, ceo of xfrog inc. and Mssr. Matt Fairclough, author extraordinaire of the Terragen thing.

Via handshake and bottle of 2003 Delas Hermitage, Feb 18 2009, 8pm, we agreed on a March launch.

Which means it is finally happening. You are getting a release of TG2 and a release of many affordable plants to go with.

 



Wow :o

What can I say? That was a lot more than I expected.

- Terje
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: sjefen on February 19, 2009, 11:13:28 PM
Hey xfrog. While you are still here. Can I just ask, is it possible that a Xfrog 4.0 Standalone could ever happend???

- Terje
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: xfrog on February 19, 2009, 11:41:47 PM
Hey xfrog. While you are still here. Can I just ask, is it possible that a Xfrog 4.0 Standalone could ever happend???

- Terje

Yes it can
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: hughbee on February 19, 2009, 11:50:37 PM
While I patiently sit here waiting for March 31. I will sip some 1990 Domain de la Romanee Conti Romanee St Vivant.

 :) ;D :D
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: schmeerlap on February 19, 2009, 11:56:41 PM
Thank you for that response, Stewart. Welcome news indeed.

John
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: xfrog on February 19, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
While I patiently sit here waiting for March 31. I will sip some 1990 Domain de la Romanee Conti Romanee St Vivant.

 :) ;D :D

ahh c'est bon, you might just get a Bonus Tutorials DVD,  Mssr. DRC.

Title: Re: XfrogPlants and Terragen 2
Post by: SilverCity on February 20, 2009, 12:05:20 AM
We are releasing, XfrogPlants for Terragen 2, the same day as the release of Terragen 2. Via handshake and bottle of 2003 Delas Hermitage, Feb 18 2009, 8pm, we agreed on a March launch.
Does this mean that Terragen 2 will be ready for release by the end of March? Or, is this more of an approximate date?
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Mandrake on February 20, 2009, 12:06:18 AM
Wow, TG2 in March? Thanks Mat, I mean Xfrog.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on February 20, 2009, 12:08:04 AM
They didn't say March of what year?  LOL  ;)
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: xfrog on February 20, 2009, 12:44:25 AM
They didn't say March of what year?  LOL  ;)

you so funny.

we may also have a los angeles launch party if enough people have interest
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: rcallicotte on February 20, 2009, 03:20:06 AM
Oh my gosh.  All complaints sealed and burned.

Thanks for your announcement.  I wondered if this was what was happening.  And I don't feel silly asking...only grateful and looking forward to this.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: otakar on February 20, 2009, 03:54:06 AM
Wait a second! Is this it? The big announcement everyone has been waiting for? And it comes from who? Xfrog? Buried in a thread about xfrog products? I find that more than a bit curious. And I am not surprised people are questioning which year in March this is supposed to occur with this track record.  :-\ Matt, Oshyan, anyone?
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Mohawk20 on February 20, 2009, 08:35:52 AM
Wait a second! Is this it? The big announcement everyone has been waiting for? And it comes from who? Xfrog? Buried in a thread about xfrog products? I find that more than a bit curious. And I am not surprised people are questioning which year in March this is supposed to occur with this track record.  :-\ Matt, Oshyan, anyone?

You have to understand that with that track record, they might assume we don't believe them anymore anyways, and thus don't announce it until it's actually finished (which could be in March, unless you decide to go look for a huge bug, and manage to find one... :D).
Xfrog doesn't have this reputation (as far as I know), so they can announce their own release any time.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Tangled-Universe on February 20, 2009, 08:54:59 AM
They didn't say March of what year?  LOL  ;)

you so funny.

we may also have a los angeles launch party if enough people have interest

Haha, guys I hope you don't take this guy too seriously...come on :)
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on February 20, 2009, 12:03:09 PM
They didn't say March of what year?  LOL  ;)

you so funny.

we may also have a los angeles launch party if enough people have interest

Haha, guys I hope you don't take this guy too seriously...come on :)

Who are you referring to Martin? Mind explaining?   
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: rcallicotte on February 20, 2009, 12:40:36 PM
Yeah, I don't live in L.A., but a party sounds like a good idea for the four or five people who could make it.

Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on February 20, 2009, 02:05:05 PM
Anyone notice that not one Rep. (Matt, Jo or Oshyan) from planetside has commented or verified this?
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Matt on February 20, 2009, 03:16:43 PM
It is true, we are coordinating for a release in March. We should have more information for you next week.

Matt
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on February 20, 2009, 03:32:01 PM
Great! Thanks Matt 
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Mohawk20 on February 20, 2009, 03:58:10 PM
Didn't sound like he was happy to announce it this soon, but thanks for confirming Matt.

I won't be mad if you can't make the release date though, wasn't your idea to tell us already...
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: choronr on February 20, 2009, 03:58:59 PM
Hey! LA is only six hours away for me.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: rcallicotte on February 20, 2009, 04:03:54 PM
Thanks Matt.  I agree with Mohawk.  Release dates are meant to be broken.  That's why I tend to give long projections and way out end-dates for my projects.  Rather tell them I'll be long and be short than visa versa.

Anyway, I like the mentality of 3DRealms - WHEN IT'S FINISHED.  No need to squabble over disagreements about this, since I know many don't agree with me already.  Anyway, COOL, COOL, COOL.

Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: xfrog on February 21, 2009, 01:09:46 AM
Wait a second! Is this it? The big announcement everyone has been waiting for? And it comes from who? Xfrog? Buried in a thread about xfrog products? I find that more than a bit curious. And I am not surprised people are questioning which year in March this is supposed to occur with this track record.  :-\ Matt, Oshyan, anyone?

Press release, some free highend plants, are coming next week.  I placed some info, ihere, because i thought the users of the prerelease of TG2, would not only be excited to know that plants are coming, but that, they are paired with a release of TG2.  Matt fully supported me saying that.  We are meeting daily.  I thought it would be something good for you all, who have been very patient, to receive fresh info as it develops, rather than just point you towards a press release. 

Questions/requests ?


Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: rcallicotte on February 21, 2009, 01:39:45 AM
@xfrog - Should we just wait to see a catalog of the new goods with prices or could we maybe get an idea or two.   :P

I can wait.  Just asking.  LOL

@Matt - Can we expect some changes with the Gold release?
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: choronr on February 21, 2009, 02:11:59 AM
@xfrog - Should we just wait to see a catalog of the new goods with prices or could we maybe get an idea or two.   :P

I can wait.  Just asking.  LOL

@Matt - Can we expect some changes with the Gold release?
He said "a release' not 'the release'; although I hope it is the 'Gold'.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: xfrog on February 21, 2009, 02:13:12 AM
@xfrog - Should we just wait to see a catalog of the new goods with prices or could we maybe get an idea or two.   :P

I can wait.  Just asking.  LOL

@Matt - Can we expect some changes with the Gold release?

Will give away something highend shortly and see what forum users can do with it.  Maybe a competition, for free products, since the economic times are grim for some folks.   Press release next week will explain what's coming in TGO format.  Zero chance of launch date slippage.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: otakar on February 21, 2009, 02:51:11 AM
Some strong words, xfrog. Ok, we shall see. If this really happens this soon, it'll be huge (including this new Greenworks-Planetside alliance).
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: sjefen on February 21, 2009, 02:59:08 AM
@xfrog - Should we just wait to see a catalog of the new goods with prices or could we maybe get an idea or two.   :P

I can wait.  Just asking.  LOL

@Matt - Can we expect some changes with the Gold release?

Will give away something highend shortly and see what forum users can do with it.  Maybe a competition, for free products, since the economic times are grim for some folks.   Press release next week will explain what's coming in TGO format.  Zero chance of launch date slippage.

A competition for a free product would have been so cool :P

- Terje
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: rcallicotte on February 21, 2009, 03:10:44 AM
Great and groovy.  Can't wait.  I'll be checking in frequently next week.

Thanks for more even more info.



Will give away something highend shortly and see what forum users can do with it.  Maybe a competition, for free products, since the economic times are grim for some folks.   Press release next week will explain what's coming in TGO format.  Zero chance of launch date slippage.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Matt on February 22, 2009, 01:00:19 AM
Our release in March will be the 2.0 final release (the 'gold' release if that's what you want to call it).

These are just some of the improvements (more will be included in the final release):

Lots of bugs have been fixed. We're still bug fixing, however, and this process will continue after 2.0 for inclusion in further updates.

Some georeferencing capabilities, and automatic georeferencing for geotiffs that have as associated .tfw files. This works well with geotiff elevation data downloaded from http://seamless.usgs.gov/

Fixed some shader bugs. Improved quality of GI in clouds and atmospheres. Options to extend the region in which ray traced polygons are fully subdivided (affecting shadows and reflections).

Incremental saving for project files (adds a version number an increments it each time you save incremental). Some other saving options in Preferences.

The 3D Preview has quite a lot of new things. There's a compass to show heading, along with indicators to show where your sunlights are coming from. There's also a measuring tool for finding out the distance between points in the preview. Distance to camera is displayed in the 3D Preview Location window. You can now navigate/move the camera using the keyboard. Animated camera paths are shown in all previews which show the camera.

Some new features to copy and paste coordinates, altitude values and slope values from the 3D preview into parameters. Other copy and paste functionality for vector parameters (e.g. object positions) and drag-and-drop for colours into text files, or pasting into other applications.

There are now checks to stop circular paths being made in the node network. These could previously cause a crash.

Added some new button icons, tweaked some old ones.


These are just some of the improvements which are already finished. We'll provide a more complete list soon.

If you still haven't pre-purchased a TG2 Deep license at $199 US (or $299 with animation), you're running out of time to get it at today's pre-release prices. The prices will increase with the final release of 2.0. Looking ahead, we would like to release a "Standard Edition" of Terragen 2 at a lower price, but we haven't started on that yet and do not have a schedule for release.

Matt
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Mandrake on February 22, 2009, 01:29:42 AM
All right my incremental save request made it!! Thanks Mat. :) Lot's of nice stuff there Mat!! wahooo!!
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Cyber-Angel on February 22, 2009, 01:47:43 AM
I suppose with the inclusion of incremental saving on the cards for the gold release, I shall ask the question that normally comes up on forums when software gets this feature: and that is in two parts.

Firstly: is it planned at some point to allow user selection of the incremental save time with some kind of preference option with a selection of save time presets for which the user can select, and functionality to go back to the default schema if required.

Secondly: is the issue of user definable incremental save naming, [if not already implemented] it would be vary useful if users could set their own file name and/ or file path location for the incremental save this would be important in production houses that have their own naming conventions for projects and for users that have small render networks at home.  Sorry to be off topic.

Regards to you.

Cyber-Angel  ;D     
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: rcallicotte on February 22, 2009, 03:04:13 AM
Thanks Matt.  Lots of cool improvements, which all show you've paid attention to our requests - even our least tactful and more demanding requests.

Can't wait.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: choronr on February 22, 2009, 04:07:06 AM
Thanks Matt; some look at this as the final release - but no; like the earliest automobile, it will go on and keep getting better and better.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: cyphyr on February 22, 2009, 04:44:10 AM
Excelent and exciting news, glad my compass request made it lol.
cyphyr
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: SilverCity on February 22, 2009, 07:52:51 AM
If you still haven't pre-purchased a TG2 Deep license at $199 US (or $299 with animation), you're running out of time to get it at today's pre-release prices. The prices will increase with the final release of 2.0.

Have you decided on a deadline for last day for pre-purchasing? Also, what's the retail price for T2 once it's released?
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Matt on February 22, 2009, 08:18:52 AM
We'll reveal those things soon, in advance of the actual release.

Matt
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: SilverCity on February 22, 2009, 08:30:06 AM
Thanks, Matt. Still on the fence here, but I don't want to miss out on my chance to pre-purchase.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: reck on February 22, 2009, 09:34:06 AM
Thanks, Matt. Still on the fence here, but I don't want to miss out on my chance to pre-purchase.

Man how can you be on the fence with software like this. The first time I used it I was addicted and ordered it within a number of hours. I've been using it ever since and look forward to the 2.0 release.

Quick get in there and get the pre-release price before its to late. ;D
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: schmeerlap on February 22, 2009, 09:39:24 AM
Hi Matt

You said nothing about the documentation (user manual) being completed for final release. Will it Be?

John
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Oshyan on February 22, 2009, 06:51:08 PM
Yes, it will be. :)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on February 23, 2009, 02:33:21 PM
Yes, it will be. :)

- Oshyan

Good News! Someones been busy busy.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Zylot on February 24, 2009, 05:02:30 PM
This is the best thread about Xfrog plants ever.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Mohawk20 on February 25, 2009, 08:35:35 PM
This is the best thread about Xfrog plants ever.

Definitely!


Great news! I'll be watching my mail box every minute, starting March 1...  ;D
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on February 27, 2009, 01:04:57 PM
Wait a second! Is this it? The big announcement everyone has been waiting for? And it comes from who? Xfrog? Buried in a thread about xfrog products? I find that more than a bit curious. And I am not surprised people are questioning which year in March this is supposed to occur with this track record.  :-\ Matt, Oshyan, anyone?

Press release, some free highend plants, are coming next week.  I placed some info, ihere, because i thought the users of the prerelease of TG2, would not only be excited to know that plants are coming, but that, they are paired with a release of TG2.  Matt fully supported me saying that.  We are meeting daily.  I thought it would be something good for you all, who have been very patient, to receive fresh info as it develops, rather than just point you towards a press release. 

Questions/requests ?



According to this we should have some "free highend plants" by the end of Saturday, which is tomorrow.  Right?
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on February 28, 2009, 11:51:08 PM
Wait a second! Is this it? The big announcement everyone has been waiting for? And it comes from who? Xfrog? Buried in a thread about xfrog products? I find that more than a bit curious. And I am not surprised people are questioning which year in March this is supposed to occur with this track record.  :-\ Matt, Oshyan, anyone?

Press release, some free highend plants, are coming next week.  I placed some info, ihere, because i thought the users of the prerelease of TG2, would not only be excited to know that plants are coming, but that, they are paired with a release of TG2.  Matt fully supported me saying that.  We are meeting daily.  I thought it would be something good for you all, who have been very patient, to receive fresh info as it develops, rather than just point you towards a press release. 

Questions/requests ?



According to this we should have some "free highend plants" by the end of Saturday, which is tomorrow.  Right?

Well how about that! This dude comes in here bragging about being CEO of greenworks, feeds us a bunch of BS about giving us some free high end plants then doesn't follow through with what he said.  A Man Is Only As Good As His Word. Really it's not about getting a couple of freebies. It's the Principle of not doing what he said. Writing software is one thing, knowing how to run a business is another.  And they wonder why I ask?  March of what year?  If they ran into a problem the least they could do is come back and say hey, gang sorry but the plants aren't ready yet. But to say nothing is totally disrespectful. Something we should be use to by now.

Unbelievable ..........
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: PG on March 01, 2009, 12:39:28 AM
Well you know if Xfrog is in LA then it's still saturday there ;D
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: mac on March 01, 2009, 02:21:50 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how much some people complain about something they get for free
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on March 01, 2009, 02:24:29 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how much some people complain about something they get for free

LOL
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: choronr on March 01, 2009, 02:49:07 AM
Perhaps unbeknown to some of you, there was a killing frost in Europe creating havic with the Xfrog vegetation!
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: AndyWelder on March 01, 2009, 08:04:05 AM
Twiddling thumbs and crossing fingers! Yup, Terragen yoga  ;)
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Mohawk20 on March 01, 2009, 12:30:55 PM
I think since 'the end of February' is in a weekend, monday March 2 wouldn't be that much of a delay, would it?
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: AndyWelder on March 01, 2009, 12:36:15 PM
It is true, we are coordinating for a release in March. We should have more information for you next week.

Matt

XFrog and Planetside should synchronize their time tables or we're ending with a release date of April 1st :P
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: rcallicotte on March 01, 2009, 12:37:07 PM
...for Pete's sake (whoever Pete is)...
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: sjefen on March 01, 2009, 05:03:54 PM
It is true, we are coordinating for a release in March. We should have more information for you next week.

Matt

XFrog and Planetside should synchronize their time tables or we're ending with a release date of April 1st :P

XFrog and Planetside should be partners so we could have a buildt-in "plant modeling software" in Terragen 2 :)

- Terje
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Seth on March 01, 2009, 05:05:49 PM


XFrog and Planetside should be partners so we could have a buildt-in "plant modeling software" in Terragen 2 :)

- Terje

yeah ^^
and a better objects preview too
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on March 01, 2009, 05:11:14 PM


XFrog and Planetside should be partners so we could have a buildt-in "plant modeling software" in Terragen 2 :)

- Terje

yeah ^^
and a better objects preview too

Yeah, like in Vue.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Seth on March 01, 2009, 05:14:42 PM
you read my mind Jay ^^
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: chromecity on March 05, 2009, 04:03:48 AM
Hey Stewart, long time no hear.  Hope all is going well with you.  That was some nice genie you uncorked in here.  :)

I've got some 2.0 XfrogPlants libraries - will those be at all useful with Terragen2, or will there be some way to convert them?  Sorry if this is something I should already know - I just bought TG2 yesterday and am still waiting for a registration key to get sent to me.  (Anyone know how long that usually takes?  It's been about 36 hours and I'm chomping at the bit to break out of that 800x600 limitation).   ;)
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Oshyan on March 05, 2009, 05:17:03 AM
Xfrog's current library can already be used with TG2. The OBJ format works well and TG2 has been designed to load them with proper scale when the right options are chosen during the object loading process (you'll be prompted for that).

Key files are currently generated and sent out manually. We have a bit of a backlog because our usual registration handler is on a short vacation, but we're working to clear it and you should receive your key very soon.

- Oshyan
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: chromecity on March 05, 2009, 06:13:39 AM
Thanks for all the info, Oshyan.  :)

EDIT: Hey, look what's in the mail.  Thanks for the key file.  8)
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: xfrog on March 05, 2009, 10:00:10 PM
Hey Stewart, long time no hear.  Hope all is going well with you.  That was some nice genie you uncorked in here.  :)

I've got some 2.0 XfrogPlants libraries - will those be at all useful with Terragen2, or will there be some way to convert them?  Sorry if this is something I should already know - I just bought TG2 yesterday and am still waiting for a registration key to get sent to me.  (Anyone know how long that usually takes?  It's been about 36 hours and I'm chomping at the bit to break out of that 800x600 limitation).   ;)


XfrogPlants 2.0 DVDs contain OBJ.    OBJ -> TG2

if you want to edit the XFR procedural models(change branching, etc),
or create new plants:

Xfrog 3.5 -> OBJ -> TG2
Xfrog 4.3 Maya -> OBJ -> TG2
Xfrog 4.3 C4D -> OBJ -> TG2

Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: xfrog on March 05, 2009, 10:05:22 PM
Wait a second! Is this it? The big announcement everyone has been waiting for? And it comes from who? Xfrog? Buried in a thread about xfrog products? I find that more than a bit curious. And I am not surprised people are questioning which year in March this is supposed to occur with this track record.  :-\ Matt, Oshyan, anyone?

Press release, some free highend plants, are coming next week.  I placed some info, ihere, because i thought the users of the prerelease of TG2, would not only be excited to know that plants are coming, but that, they are paired with a release of TG2.  Matt fully supported me saying that.  We are meeting daily.  I thought it would be something good for you all, who have been very patient, to receive fresh info as it develops, rather than just point you towards a press release. 

Questions/requests ?



According to this we should have some "free highend plants" by the end of Saturday, which is tomorrow.  Right?


Is it saturday yet or can i dream. TGO format is in flux.  Defer to the release date the free items. 
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Mohawk20 on March 05, 2009, 11:36:15 PM
Is it saturday yet or can i dream. TGO format is in flux.  Defer to the release date the free items. 

Wait. Are you saying that planetside is messing with the TGO format, changing stuff? Or is your release not going as smoothly as planned? Just so we're clear on what the problem is...
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Mandrake on March 06, 2009, 12:30:08 AM
That's funny Mohawk. ;) Did you expect another change in tg2 announced from xfrog. ;)
I hope not!
Sounds like they are deciding how to tgo them, not to many people get it right the first time.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: xfrog on March 06, 2009, 01:03:52 AM
Is it saturday yet or can i dream. TGO format is in flux.  Defer to the release date the free items. 

Wait. Are you saying that planetside is messing with the TGO format, changing stuff? Or is your release not going as smoothly as planned? Just so we're clear on what the problem is...


There is no problem. TGO enhanced in release of TG2.  Old TGO work fine.  Our content is in "release" TGO.   Everyone okay ?
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: xfrog on March 06, 2009, 01:05:06 AM
Is it saturday yet or can i dream. TGO format is in flux.  Defer to the release date the free items. 

Wait. Are you saying that planetside is messing with the TGO format, changing stuff? Or is your release not going as smoothly as planned? Just so we're clear on what the problem is...


P.S. Matt, i vote we open a new discussion topic called Release TG2  instead of this buried inside "Xfrog Single Pack Purchases.."
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on April 04, 2009, 01:43:19 PM
They didn't say March of what year?  LOL  ;)

you so funny.

we may also have a los angeles launch party if enough people have interest

Me so true.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Seth on April 04, 2009, 03:02:34 PM
that's strange that we don't have those freeeee plants yet considering that was xfrog that forced Planetside to announce their release...
maybe they wait for the "final" final release...
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: neuspadrin on April 04, 2009, 03:04:20 PM
seeing as we got a pre final final release march 33rd?

so when's xfrog's release? march 40th? maybe?
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: matrix2003 on April 04, 2009, 03:11:22 PM
LOL !  that's a good one! 
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: AndyWelder on April 04, 2009, 03:16:06 PM
We all could sent stewartpmcsherry@yahoo.com an email asking him to live up to his words (or whatever the expression is)
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: matrix2003 on April 04, 2009, 03:26:17 PM
Well I did just that.  Lets see if he responds.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: matrix2003 on April 04, 2009, 03:35:48 PM
WELL THAT WAS FAST!

Sent from his iphone: "coming next week. thanks for your patience."

There ya go.  ;D
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on April 04, 2009, 03:37:11 PM
We all could sent stewartpmcsherry@yahoo.com an email asking him to live up to his words (or whatever the expression is)

We all could sent stewartpmcsherry@yahoo.com an email asking him to live up to his words (or whatever the expression is)



No sense wasting the time to email him as he doesn't answer emails anyway. What gets me the most is, he came in here running off at the mouth about being Xfrog's CEO and doesn't do what he said. And on top of that, he doesn't even have the balls or common decency to come back and face the music.  I thought I was arrogant but he has me beat!  Just to point out to those that think I'm bitching about not getting something for free. I could care less about free xfrog plants. I have plenty of plants in my collect already. However I would have spent the money for some quality Xfrog plants made for TG, but now I don't know that I care to give them my business. I have my doubts that they would lend any support or answer any messages/emails if a paying customer was to encounter problems with their products.  If they are not careful and don't start showing some attentiveness to Customers or Potential Customers someone might come along and offer better plants for sale along with good support and customer relations.  Who would you rather deal with?

Have a TG Day!   :)
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on April 04, 2009, 03:39:23 PM
WELL THAT WAS FAST!

Sent from his iphone: "coming next week. thanks for your patience."

There ya go.  ;D

He's probably reading this thread as we post. LOL
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: matrix2003 on April 04, 2009, 03:46:29 PM
errr ....yes he is!  He just responded in the other thread.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: chromecity on April 04, 2009, 03:55:26 PM
No sense wasting the time to email him as he doesn't answer emails anyway. What gets me the most is, he came in here running off at the mouth about being Xfrog's CEO and doesn't do what he said. And on top of that, he doesn't even have the balls or common decency to come back and face the music.  I thought I was arrogant but he has me beat!  Just to point out to those that think I'm bitching about not getting something for free. I could care less about free xfrog plants. I have plenty of plants in my collect already. However I would have spent the money for some quality Xfrog plants made for TG, but now I don't know that I care to give them my business. I have my doubts that they would lend any support or answer any messages/emails if a paying customer was to encounter problems with their products.  If they are not careful and don't start showing some attentiveness to Customers or Potential Customers someone might come along and offer better plants for sale along with good support and customer relations.  Who would you rather deal with?
I have corresponded with Stewart for almost 10 years whenever I had questions or issues with the standalone Xfrog products or the Xfrog for C4D product and various libraries.  Stewart has always responded personally and has offered assistance numerous times.  I have nothing but praise for the product support at Greenworks.  The implications above are not accurate.  Certainly this rollout has not gone as intended, but a week from now or a month from now or whatever, it will all be water under the bridge and we can all be happily rendering our Xfrog content in TG2.  However unpleasant it seems at this very moment, this hiccup is not indicative of the way that Stewart and his company run their business.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on April 04, 2009, 03:58:47 PM
No sense wasting the time to email him as he doesn't answer emails anyway. What gets me the most is, he came in here running off at the mouth about being Xfrog's CEO and doesn't do what he said. And on top of that, he doesn't even have the balls or common decency to come back and face the music.  I thought I was arrogant but he has me beat!  Just to point out to those that think I'm bitching about not getting something for free. I could care less about free xfrog plants. I have plenty of plants in my collect already. However I would have spent the money for some quality Xfrog plants made for TG, but now I don't know that I care to give them my business. I have my doubts that they would lend any support or answer any messages/emails if a paying customer was to encounter problems with their products.  If they are not careful and don't start showing some attentiveness to Customers or Potential Customers someone might come along and offer better plants for sale along with good support and customer relations.  Who would you rather deal with?
I have corresponded with Stewart for almost 10 years whenever I had questions or issues with the standalone Xfrog products or the Xfrog for C4D product and various libraries.  Stewart has always responded personally and has offered assistance numerous times.  I have nothing but praise for the product support at Greenworks.  The implications above are not accurate.  Certainly this rollout has not gone as intended, but a week from now or a month from now or whatever, it will all be water under the bridge and we can all be happily rendering our Xfrog content in TG2.  However unpleasant it seems at this very moment, this hiccup is not indicative of the way that Stewart and his company run their business.

Well I'm happy for you but I haven't had that experience.  I have emailed him several times in the past with no response at all, so all I can do is relate my own experience.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: AndyWelder on April 04, 2009, 04:04:37 PM
Stewart replied to me equally as fast, it was a matter of minutes!
 
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Walli on April 04, 2009, 06:27:06 PM
first of all, normaly all issues are taken care of. second, itīs always a good idea to write in places where you can expect to get support. When Stewart is not answering here the threads, it might be that he simply does not check all forums on internet everyday. If he would do so, then Greenworks wouldnīt be possible to release new stuff at all.

There is a Xfrog usergroup and soon there will be even be more. And on this usergroup you not only get help from xfrog users, this group is also closely followed by Greenworks.

You always have to keep in mind that on company addresses you recieve dozens or hundreds of spam mails and sometimes an important mail can slip or is filtered. That is for sure not nice, but I think its important to faith the real world ;-)
I mean even a small freelancer like me gets so many spam mails, I really donīt want to know how much Stewart gets on all xfrog addresses.

best,
Walli
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: matrix2003 on April 10, 2009, 10:59:14 AM
Well .... the week is almost over!  >:(
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: AndyWelder on April 10, 2009, 11:59:55 AM
Well .... the week is almost over!  >:(
Well, never heard of Easter Egg plants? :D
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: matrix2003 on April 12, 2009, 10:45:39 AM
Fooled again!  Now I don't believe in the Easter Bunny or the Xfrog.
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: buzzzzz1 on April 12, 2009, 01:12:46 PM
Fooled again!  Now I don't believe in the Easter Bunny or the Xfrog.

LOL  Maybe Santa will deliver them?   ;)
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: cyphyr on April 19, 2009, 08:38:28 PM

Is it saturday yet or can i dream. TGO format is in flux.  Defer to the release date the free items. 


It is ??? !!!

So what about all the models we've already produced, are you saying that they will no longer work in Terragen, I dont think that can be right.

richard

(slightly quizical ... )
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: PG on April 19, 2009, 08:58:29 PM

Is it saturday yet or can i dream. TGO format is in flux.  Defer to the release date the free items. 


It is ??? !!!

It's format mating season, didn't you know? ;D
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Mohawk20 on April 19, 2009, 09:26:59 PM
I guess it was in flux at XFrog's end, probably some conversion trouble...
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: Oshyan on April 20, 2009, 03:21:09 AM
Old TGO files will still work, don't worry. :)

- Oshyan
Title: Re: xFrog Single Package Purchases...?
Post by: rcallicotte on April 20, 2009, 11:37:02 AM
Thanks for keeping us abreast with reality, Oshyan.