Maybe it was the population that has to be off center now that I think about it...like the center grid object cannot be edited. I am not sure, but I remember the discussion.
I was using the default SSS as the mask at first, thinking....now where did they all go, they were just there. Now I label. Goofy me.
Yeah the more I think about it I'm remembering the thread as well and I'm pretty sure it was move the population's center.